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Dicussion paper ~The sexual diversity of GPT

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C4LEB
1 month ago

Sexual diversity in action (used with permission):


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Julian618
1 month ago

The only thing I am scratching my head is calling straight porn threatening and dangerous. If you say it is not popular with our base fine but dangerous and threatening I disagree. That would be the CP that gets on here. If the monitors did not shut it down the government would shut down the site. That is the most threatening and dangerous. If seeing an occasional vagina online makes you feel unsafe or threatened, I suggest a break from being online and speak with a MH professional.

voyeur327
1 month ago

Amen!!! heart

Roy06
1 month ago

GPT needs more masculine, muscular, athletic men, jocks, military men, footballers, gymnasts... to make it a great place


 

C4LEB
1 month ago

 


Run it up the flag pole, and see who salutes...


 


 



 

syko
3 weeks ago

C4LEB
2 months ago

This seems to please most parties...


Iron_boy
2 months ago

Can’t it just be filtered out? Standard view is gay only but you can click a button 2 see the rest? Yep users need 2 tag properly but as VD said delete and tell off the people that don’t do it! Surely that just solves the whole thing super easy? 

C4LEB
2 months ago

Herding cats.

jaypacobeaver
2 months ago

I dont know what makes straight porn more "dangerous" tho. I understand if it's completely taken over the gayporn site, which people come here for gay stuff, but dangerous?   Thats a heavy word

verydelight
2 months ago

Dangerous in the sense of user retention. The vast majority is here explicitly for gay porn. If they wanted to see women they would likely be on any other site. This vas majority is (sexually) repelled by women and does not want to see them in a sexual context.

swiftjohn
2 months ago

Pretty boys belong with pretty boys - not with (ugh) girls.

C4LEB
2 months ago

C4LEB
2 months ago

starwindwizard77
2 months ago

See what I'm saying? cwy

starwindwizard77
2 months ago

alphabet-cancer. "


*busts out laughing*


We are taking over Ever Single LETTER!


*clears throat*


Obviously I don't have the knowledge to understand how to run a website. I'd imagine creating the option for certain videos to go in Certain Categories may be a big hassle/project.


I don't like Straight porn but I respect those who do- and I HIGHLY recommend for the sake of making everyone happy .... is to create their own area of the website.


*sighs*

verydelight
2 months ago

Yes, super complicated... Pretty much totally impossible to implement:


if ($video_categories.has("str8") && $user_settings.has("show_str8")){
   list_video();
}else{
   dont();
}


if ($video_categories.has("bisex") && $user_settings.has("show_bisex")){
   list_video();
}else{
   dont();
}


....


 

verydelight
2 months ago

And i'm not kidding, this is actually the code needed to do it. In reality coding it would even be shorter, 2 lines of code on the listing function.

C4LEB
2 months ago

Does that code rely on the uploaders using relevant tags?

verydelight
2 months ago

@c4leb: Yes sure. How else would the system recognize that?
Moderators should be able to mark videos as such too - and using wrong categories should be reprimandable.

verydelight
2 months ago

Putting the right categoryy would be compulsory then. All such content NOT marked with the right categorie could be directly removed by monitors.

verydelight
2 months ago

Easiest way would actually be to add a checkbox "upload contains depiction(s) of (biological) female(s)" on upload. And a simple "show content with females" setting in the user settings. No need to differentiate it much into str8 and bisexual, you want females, you get females. If you dont like it: Go to a more specific site for females :)

C4LEB
2 months ago

Well, the tag system would have to be overhauled radically to ensure compliance, and by extension, the search mechanism. Complete overhaul.

verydelight
2 months ago

I demonstrated the search overhaul (2 lines of code to make it boolean, 2 more lines to add specific categories search) and proposed a category model (~10 lines of code).


Given the database indexed FULLTEXT I could implement that within 45min.

verydelight
2 months ago

We could tolerate str8 content (to a very limited level) if the focus is clearly on the guy (not the girl) and the guy is exceptionally hot. We could also tolerate bisexual content as long as the MM action has at least the same level as the MF action. BUT: That should be separated away from the main content and only shown if explicitly requested (e.g. by user setting).
For all else there are plenty of str8 and other niche websites. Yes, the world is multilateral, but that doesnt mean we have to destroy every last of the the very few gay safe-spaces that still exist and are not yet destroyed by the alphabet-cancer. This is GAYporntube, not lsgbtqik2plisxyzabccatvideotube, and we should defend it. If content is not 'gay enough' it should go, to trash or at least into separation. So many other sites went down because of this multilateral-selfdestructive-everyoneiswelcome-shitdumping, this site will hopefully not.

@dhlups: Other sites also dont have good cat videos - should we have them here then?
@Gaypornlover2003@: As long as it does have cocks I think it should be ok. I'm defo not a fan of it, but it is technically gay. If it just identifies as male that is not sufficient in my op.

If people srsly demand girls on gay website give it to them, but separate it for everone else, because the majority will NOT want it.

dhlups
2 months ago

The problem with "if you want to see hetero sex just go to the hetero-sex pages" is:


Those pages mostly feature older, fatter, less attractive men who shag beautiful women. If I - as a bi-sexual guy - want to enjoy good-looking, younger men AND girls there's not much on those sites. A lot of the best hetero stuff I like I found here.


That's why I strongly support showing bi-sexual content on GPT.


By the way, of how many videos we are talking about anyway? I'd guess it's less than 2 % of all content. And then, for those who don't want that content here it's only a thumbnail where not much is revealed anyway. Shouldn't be too hard to ignore.

starwindwizard77
2 months ago

Why can't I move this chat box Out of the way when responding sentence by sentence...how annoying....



As I've said, the thumbnail can show a good looking very handsome black man.... then I see him have sex with a woman. I don't want to see that. 
The Painting is ruined, the food tastes nasty, and I get disgusted and go away.


It can (and has) ruined my experience. Straight porn is a turn off.


*ONLY Speaking for myself*


I rather content be Bi then straight.


I mean I'm not gonna watch Bi Porn either but I understand why people would be into that. tongue

C4LEB
2 months ago

"Those pages mostly feature older, fatter, less attractive men..."


That's just preference, dhlups, and perhaps just taking the path of least resistance. If you bi boys really wanted to establish a presence you'd start saturating such straight sites with bisexual material (much as you're doing here). Much less resistance from the gay community, right? Until now...


A quick search will show that there's just as much wrinkly gay material on here (tagged as 'Dad/son') as you describe, so is that a valid argument for having women on the site? I argue against that position.


"... how many videos we are talking about..."


Enough to generate such a discussion as this, with fervently held opinions. Bi guys have had a foot in both camps, and could - when push came to shove - hide in plain sight. Gay men have been more visible, and our safe spaces are something we've carved out and for which we have fought. And we've carried the rest of the queer alphabet with us, to boot. 


Don't use our inclusivity against us; we've allowed you in - leave your preferences for women at the door. You're welcome to your boy fix, but don't push it any further.

Gaypornlover2003@
2 months ago

This is a gay site, so the content should be gay, but.....


What about femboys, cd, ladyboys, trans etc, should they not be allowed and if they are not, how much will that reduce the target group?


Many younger guys start off with bi-sex porn as the more "safe" choice and will visit sites that have that. Once there they hopefully revisits the site and eventually go to the best content :) the real gay guys. Not having bi-sex would prevent that journey and potentially reduce the number of visits.


I know it is difficult to impose but if bi content always was categorised and having bi in the name of the post it shouldn't be a problem for those wanting to avoid it.

starwindwizard77
2 months ago

Fem, trans etc etc......... IMO it's fine.


It's not my cup of tea. I'll reserve my Opinion about it. ermm

C4LEB
2 months ago

I have deep respect for FTMs who have put in the ultimate effort to live as a man. They should be included as male, they've earned their place in the Boys Club.

verydelight
2 months ago

@C4leb: So why not "normal" women then? Maybe they are FTM, who knows? And everyone uploading str8 content will just claim the female is FTM (or at least identified as such at some point). What extend of the "transformation" do you require? FTM can be fully intact women. Is a mastectomy sufficient to make full screen pussy closeups gay? Is an enlarged clitoris gay?


This has nothing to do with respect, but with pure reality. You will barely find a "full" FTM transformation with a phalloplastic. Quite all cases will basically be tomgirls with small or removed boobs.

swiftjohn
2 months ago

I'm totally fine with femboys because they have dicks that get hard and ejaculate sperm. 

Gaypornlover2003@
2 months ago

Seeing the comments here just confirms my worry about making such destinctions, we all have different view on what is what and what is ok.


As gay we should be inclusive, but as this is a gay forum, ask that bi content e.g. should be marked as bi, to make it easier to find and easier to avoid if you want that

C4LEB
2 months ago

"FTM can be fully intact women."


No, by definition, they can't, verydelight. Making the transition from female to male is the journey away from being a woman, away from femininity as possibly can be, physically and psychologically. It's more than just a mastectomy - it's the hormonal changes that maketh the the man, the internal matching the external. A phalloplasty is for the moment unobtainable, but it's the final hurdle for our most recent men. 

verydelight
2 months ago

@C4leb: I see no difference between a full screen pussy close up and a full screen pussy closeup with medially induced hormonal imbalance. It is still a full screen pussy closeup and not gay - to put it cynical.


If it has a pussy (in the front) its a woman. Doesnt matter if hairy, having a beard, dressing in leather jacket, tattooed everywhere and having no boobs.


 

C4LEB
2 months ago

I can appreciate a pussy on a man. I may not want to go there, but I recognise their place in the manosphere. Feminised men, however, are opting out of masculinity, so I'm not the least bit interested. I have no time for femmes or trannies, penis or not. There, the mote in my eye.

verydelight
2 months ago

> I can appreciate a pussy on a man


That must be some progressed state of alphabet-cancer...


There is a simple rule to make it clear, undebatable and safe: NO FRONT-PUSSIES.

THIS is exactly the reason why every safe-space gets infected and torn appart. There is no pussy on a man, the only way that can happen is MTF. MTF must be tolerated the same way then. Its a man with a pussy, FTM according to you also is a man with a pussy, I dont care what they tell their psychiatrist, its just a fact, that doesnt change anything. Then we can also have pussies in general, bisex, straight and everything else, why not children and ganddads - ageism is terrible and many of them are DEFO a part of gay spectrum, my dog identifies as gay too. If you start with exemptions it will NEVER STOP ANYWHERE - it ends in the self-destructive everyone-is-welcome-cancer that destroys sites like this and complete societies. 


And if someone feels excluded and commits suicide because of it: So be it then, a sacrifice I'm absolutely willing to accept.


C4LEB
2 months ago

*shrug*  Perhaps the gain in men (FTMs) offsets the loss (MTFs), all else being equal.


I don't know that my acceptance is progressive per se, just a recognition of a person's identity. I'm fine with someone who is happier if they can live with their version of themselves, rather than to not recognise their unhappiness and have them die in misery. Isn't the pursuit of happiness one of the goals of the human condition?

verydelight
2 months ago

The major point is to make clear YES/NO rules that can not be debated. If they leave too much space for arguing it results in debates and complaints. Yes, maybe 3 people will be unhappy because they are a man (by their own definition) AND have a front-pussy, but their happiness is simply not worth having to debate 10.000 videos with 800 users... They have their own forums and groups that they ALSO try to keep on topic... 


So a simple and non-debatable rule is: No front-pussies.


Everything that contains a front-pussy goes into trash or explicit-consent-separation. Everything else causes additional work load that is by no means worth it. There is seriously no need to create 300 fuzzy edge-cases to make everyone happy that only apply to maybe 3 people but will cause 800 ppl to debate them. It is not neccessary to make everyone happy - everyone who is not happy has or can start their own safe-space.

jaypacobeaver
2 months ago

So because a "woman" had a dick, it's acceptable? What if a woman has a strap on then?  Where is the line?  Its all in the eye of the beholder.

swiftjohn
2 months ago

It has been my experience that just about all femboys are are bottom boys and most enthusiastic bottoms at that which makes them great fucks. Some of the most intense orgasms I've ever had were inside the rectums of femboys. And after you pump your sperm deep up inside them you can be treated to a mouthful of their sweet delicious sperm for dessert. So as far as I'm concerned, if they have a real dick which ejaculates real sperm then they belong here. If they don't - they don't.

aaner
1 month ago

my modest opinion, this site is a success not because it is a generalist porn site, but a highly specialised gay site for gay people who like BOYS, and it will be successful as long as it keeps its focus

so anything off topic does not belong here, in my opinion. So for me straight sex and women do not belong here, not because they are a turn off for me (and they are for me), or because i hate straight people or women, but they do not belong here.


if i go to a gay sauna, i obviously expect to find a gay atmosphere and not just generic gay but the kind of clientele the establishment is known for, wether it is bears, leather or boys or other.


to me FTM transexuals who strive to build their virility are fine even if they have a pussy, not because of their choice but because of a destiny that was particularly hard on them.

on the contrary MTF feminised men who are opting out of their masculinity do not belong here in my eyes


 

Candy
2 months ago

ermm

starwindwizard77
2 months ago

To add my 2 cents as a long standing member of this website (not as long as others, but 5 years IS a gosh darn long time).


I'm a gay man, I love Gay porn. 1 or 2 or more men. It's what I expect, it's what I want to see, I mean....it's in the Title of this website.


The Very , Absolutely last thing I ever want to see- is a good looking guy, sticking his Penis (trying to sound properly professional here) - in a Vagina.


It kills the mood, it kills the Fantasy.


I don't want to hear/see any parts of a woman. I come to this site to look at gay porn, not Straight porn. 

YES, you don't have to click on a video to look at it, BUT like I've said earlier.... in a thumbnail if the guy looks attractive I'm gonna click on it (Especially of the thumbnail just shows the guy).


I know everybody is different, everybody has their kinks/fantasies (which is totally fine),  


However I can only speak for myself, watching porn is like a Fantasy, a Dream . To have sex or what ever may turn you on but to have it ruined by something your not Naturally attracted to is terrible.


It's like going to your favorite places to eat. You know what's on the menu, you know what to expect, you know how much it's gonna cost but then that restaurant add's something you didn't ask for OR changes the ingrediants, giving you a taste/flavor you don't enjoy/like.


* And I'm not the only one who feels/thinks this. The Same users who've been on this websites for Years feel/say the same thing. They don't want to look at Women, they don't want to see a Hot guy having sex with a Woman......or multiple Women.


3 women and 1 guy?! Come on now.


Now, I'm not closed minded (at least I like to think so) people have their interest.


I have NO problem if their are videos of 2 guys and a woman. That would be Bi sexual. The 2 men obviously would have to interact with each other sexually.  


If not that's just Straight porn but with 2 guys. The woman being separated by the 2 men with out any interactions isn't Bi (IMO to be technical about it). 


Over all


I believe/feel there is not place for straight porn on a GAY WEBSITE.


This website (like many) is just like all the other gay websites, and people can easily go to any other gay website, but they CHOOSE to come "HERE".
They Choose to come to This particular Gay website...where it's content Is (--gay--) and it's users are better and possibly more social then any other website.



I can't imagine if there was nothing but Gay AND Straight porn videos posted all over  the main part of this websites video page.


There is/should be a place for everything, and if you want to make the "everybody happy", just do what Xhamster, xxnxx, x-videos, 89 . com etc etc do,


Just make a Separate section for Straight Content, so those who want to show it or look at it can go enjoy themselves over there........


 


....


and Maybe change the title to the website "Porn Tube"

starwindwizard77
2 months ago

There is not "edit"?


How odd.


 


Well to ADD ..........


 


When People go on the internet and have the urge to look at "gay porn", this website would/should/could come up.


People Porously SEARCH for "Gay Content", they want to SEE j/o to Gay content.


What would make anyone want to become a member of this website if  user searches for Gay content , Come to This website (because gay is in the title) but see "straight content" on it's front page.


As silly as it is, Its "mis leading"..........and that user (who porously searched for -gay content-) may just look somewhere else cause they see  Straight videos mixed in with gay videos.


If that user wanted to look at Straight Content, They Would Of Searched For It.

C4LEB
2 months ago


The site's cohort of porn users


Gay men come to a porn site primarily for gay content. (If a preference for content didn't matter, they wouldn't be here.) Gay men are often averse to seeing material other than male-only content, though a minority will tolerate unappealing content. Then there is the bi-sexual cohort, who appreciate both male and female content on any porn site. GPT caters for those who appreciate young men interacting with other men, the site's original remit. A recent name change has muddied the site's intended content range.

"Teen viewers make up approximately 19% of porn audiences", "Approximately 69% of men ... watch pornography at least once a month".


https://wifitalents.com/porn-search-statistics/ 

C4LEB
2 months ago

On the spectrum of human sexual preference, the band stretches from 100% gay to 100% straight, with mostly gay (80%-60% same sex attraction) and mostly straight (60%-80% opposite sex attraction) either side of the bisexual contingent (50/50). There are 'straight plus' and 'gay when horny' preferences in there, too. 



Gender expression in porn and its consumers includes transvestites (cross- dressing, drag), feminised men (sissy / fag), and transsexuals (gender affirmation). Transboy (FTM) is the biological transition to masculinity, whereas Transgirl (MTF) is the opposite.

"4 percent of websites are estimated to be porn"
https://www.statista.com/chart/16959/share-of-the-internet-that-is-porn/ 

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